I found only you and Dirk in that picture :)

http://picasaweb.google.com/andrew.markelov/RussianFedoraLaunch#5271014709073712770

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I mean, I recognised only you and Dirk :)

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«В Fedora около 10 000 пакетов» -- I thought Fedora has about 7,000 packages!
See https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/collections/ -- unofficial packages shouldn't be counted, as they are not Fedora!

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Binary RPMs for x86 is close to 10k, I believe.

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Binary packages are flakey for numbering due to two factors: source package number and average subpackage number. Counting srpms (or package build rule files, ultimately) is more productive.

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Re the whole Russian Fedora adventure, I should probably warn you on some things you might not expect: there's some underwater movement to try and push ALT Linux off the government market it essentially created in Russia, and to pull off volunteers as well. Thus being counter-, not pro-anything at its heart.

Looks like some local IBM folks (Denis Sosnovtsev in particular) feel interested in that (for their globalist thinking seems easier with global Linux vendor) and some other parties (including several SIs and OEMs) which I personally din't talk with but the traces are more numerous than this alone.

Another thing to consider: VNIINS the "institute" (de facto a privately held corporation) has only one worthy developer these days; the rest went to form ALT Linux Team core years ago. Dmitry is way too overloaded with both technical job and internal/external fighting: some generals would just prefer "pirated" Windows, and some FLOSS folks find it wrong that the body chose not to disclose their modifications to (obsolete) free software they did over the years. He's good fellow and competent developer but he's not defining the whole house strategy, and the rest largely prefers doing nothing for a fortune.

So if you feel some day that this adventure is being pushed by strange people who didn't tell you why they do it -- due to personal or corporate reasons -- and against fellow colleagues in development, you might have been warned of this game...

On the bright side, I really hope that working with people like Arcady Shein (Tedora's author) will be a pleasure, and that overall quality of Fedora for (Russian, too) users and developers will finally grow up.

After all, Fedora is about development, not consumerism as Ubuntu is. ALT Linux is about user/admin/developer education, too.

Good luck, and take care.

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Could you send me your email address? I'd like to continue this discussion with you via email. mspevack {at} redhat {dot} com is mine. thanks!

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You can always pretend that you are not the guy in front of the F7 backdrop... it's Indiana Jones, look at his hat!

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I'd start with a group picture: http://tigro.info/blog/images/168.jpg

The story is that Tedora -> "Russian Fedora":
http://www.tedoralinux.ru/en/news-all.php#8
http://tigro.info/blog/index.php?id=572
http://tigro.info/blog/index.php?id=573

The ex-Tedora, new Russian Fedora, is going to include: Fedora Everything, RPM Fusion Free, RPM Fusion Non Free, Tigro. Notable non-Fedora packages include: ATI, NVIDIA, truecrypt, a rebuilt freetype, Adobe Flash, amule, etc. See: http://tigro.info/blog/index.php?s=file_download&id=14

Now, this Russian spin, now with a more ... canonical (==authorized; recognized; accepted) name should make some top stories, right?

Oh, dear Макс Спевак, take a look at this:
http://mydebianblog.blogspot.com/2008/11/fedora-linux.html

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I read that blog post, Beranger, via Google Translate, and I'm going to look at all of these other links.

Obviously there was a lot going on in Russia with OSS and/or Fedora before last week, and there is still a lot happening.

I had several specific goals and purposes in making the trip. I know I haven't had time to post a full trip report, but I will. Let's talk more after you read everything that I have to say, because until then you are missing out on a lot of context.

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